Way to Play Super Mario 64: On Apple Vision Pro

(pagetable.com)

68 points | by frizlab 2 days ago

11 comments

  • amelius 29 minutes ago
    People when playing with LEGO or board games:

    "I wonder what it would look like from the perspective of the figures"

    People when playing game consoles:

    "I wonder what it would look like from a distance"

  • olivierestsage 9 minutes ago
    Well, that’s the first thing I’ve ever seen that made me want a Vision Pro (or VR/AR in general), so hats off for that. (Edit: Mario 64 pun not intended)
  • PetitPrince 59 minutes ago
    Diorama-style VR works very well to reduce or even eliminate kinetosis for game. I've seen this in Moss and Moss 2 and it works very well.

    Too bad many blockbuster games nowadays have a camera-over-the-shoulder approach rather and focus on aiming on stuff rather than fixed camera (understandable since so many of them are open world); this would have given a nice accessibility option for fan-made mods. That said, for character action game with melee combat (the likes of Devil May Cry, Elden Ring, etc), maybe a god-game view centered on the character with a limited field of view could work ?

  • adamddev1 3 hours ago
    Oh man, the memories that music brings back. N64 was magical when it first came out. We used to rent it from Blockbuster Video for parties with friends.
    • tombert 16 minutes ago
      Mario 64 is probably the game I have spent the most amount of time playing.

      I had never really played any "open ended" games before it; sometimes I would just load up the game to run around, with no goals of collecting any stars or making any progress or anything. The platforming controls were fun even when there wasn't any specific "goal", and to a six year old kid the worlds felt huge.

      As a cynical grownup who more or less knows how to write software, I now know that a lot of the "gigantic" feeling you'd have in N64 games was smoke and mirrors, but I didn't as a kid. It felt like if I just swam to some yet-unexplored corner of Jolly Roger Bay there would be something waiting for me. It doesn't hurt that the music is actually really good (particularly in Jolly Roger Bay).

      Without hyperbole, as a thirty-something now, I've probably played through the game around thirty or forty times; I have most of the stars pretty thoroughly memorized and I can get an "any%" completion in a couple hours. I will still load the game up every now and again on my MiSTer. Despite being one of the first big 3D platformers, I still think it's one of the best.

      • hylaride 4 minutes ago
        Goldeneye for me. My friends and I spent HOURS every Friday night into dawn playing that, shit-talking each other. The licence to kill setting (where one hit no matter what killed you) with no-Oddjob slap fights. I often nostalgically wish I was young and immature again thinking about it.
  • iugtmkbdfil834 2 days ago
    It is cool. And I admit I am getting into decompiling and rebuilding for funzies ( just this weekend: few old 3.1 educational games, ff11( one zone only ) and vf4( ps2, mostly failure on first attempt ). But as a side note, I was under impression apple is not big on letting emulators run on its hardware? I am mildly worried that a big hammer is gonna come down on it all pretty soon.
    • daveidol 42 minutes ago
      That is outdated now. You can run emulators on iOS and you’ll find plenty in the App Store. The only limitation right now is no JIT, which is a problem for more modern console emulation.
  • siva7 33 minutes ago
    apple, here is your killer app for this awkward thing ;)
  • Lucasoato 1 hour ago
    What's the current best device for VR/AR? Have there been any advancements in this field lately? Or any upcoming device that has been announced?
    • ycombinete 1 hour ago
      There's a new steam set coming out that looks excellent: https://store.steampowered.com/hardware/steamframe
    • xqcgrek2 1 hour ago
      They're all still pretty bad at around 25-40 pixels per degree, with the the higher FoV ones lower PPD.
    • LoganDark 1 hour ago
      It varies for each person. Would need to know what you prefer in a device.

      Valve's Steam Frame runs Linux that you own, but is not generally available yet if you didn't reserve one already. It suffers from LCD, low pixel density, and awful passthrough, but the software is some of the best and only getting better. In a few years Valve may offer an OLED upgrade (or a new model, but fuck that)

      • Grombobulous 59 minutes ago
        It should also be noted that there is a passthrough accessory if you want better passthrough.

        The Steam Frame is squarely targeted as a pure gaming device where passthrough is less important.

        • LoganDark 50 minutes ago
          I've been pissed that using up the expansion port for passthrough means you don't have an expansion port anymore. It's such a missed opportunity.

          Seems nobody has realized this or nobody cares. I haven't seen anyone else notice or mention it.

          > The Steam Frame is squarely targeted as a pure gaming device

          It's technically also supposed to be a Linux PC, and there are some (not many) productivity features.

          In any case, I'd prefer to be able to at least read notifications instead of having to take the headset off every time I get a message or an e-mail or whatever.

  • SwtCyber 2 days ago
    I love that we've reached a point where you can put an entire N64 level on your dining table and physically walk around it.
  • AlexITC 1 hour ago
    Looks amazing! Apple headset has lots of potential but the price is insane.
    • Grombobulous 57 minutes ago
      Because it’s such a failure, the used pricing on eBay almost looks attractive. The depreciation is very real.

      Although it’s possible that the original M2 processor variant isn’t something to invest in.

      • AlexITC 12 minutes ago
        A while ago I checked the 2nd hand market where I live but this headset is barely listed. The few ones are expensive-enough that I'd rather purchase a new one.
      • haunter 20 minutes ago
        Sadly most of them are listed in the US so shipping and customs would kill these deals for everyone not there
  • andai 2 hours ago
    Fantastic! It's been a very cool week for technology.
  • QuantumNomad_ 1 hour ago
    > Way to Play

    I knew this was going to be another case of HN title filtering!